Ever since the playoffs started there’s been a certain tone on this board that has questioned the loyalty of certain fan bases. The most obvious, of course, are the Cubs fans who booed their team in the playoffs but let’s not also forget the Phillies fans who were booing their team as early as two months ago. Fans booing their own team is almost always pointed to as a sign of a weak fanbase by opposing fans. It’s right up there with leaving early or not filling the stands.
I guess I want to start with a question and that question is this: at what point is booing acceptable? Certainly the Cubs fans were exasperated with their team when they were losing to the Dodgers who most prognosticators thought they could beat. But games 1 and 2 happened at home, in Chicago. Booing your team as they lose the first two games at home and as they are heading out of the ballpark to spend some time on the road is not the best motivational tool.
I remember the 1993 NBA playoffs, the year the Suns signed Charles Barkley. That year, the Suns lost the first two games at home to the 8th seeded Lakers and were heading on the road to Los Angeles. If they were to lose, it would be the first time a 1 seed had ever lost to an 8 seed (the Nuggets/Sonics series came two years later). I remember Paul Westphal guaranteeing victory, something to the effect of, “we’re going to win game three, and then we’re going to win game 4. Then we’re going to fly home and win game 5 and everyone will talk about how great a series it was.”
I remember that series especially well because my brother drove by my school, pulled me out of class, and drove me to the airport with a sign so that we could see the team get on their plane. This was back before 9/11 when anyone could walk through security right up to the gate even if they didn’t have a ticket. Well there we were with a big group of fans seeing the team off as they headed out on the road. Everyone was clapping and cheering and wishing them well. It was a great scene, one that I doubt I will ever forget. I got every Suns autograph that day with the exception of Kevin Johnson who for some reason was acting like a prick. I still have that sign.
So that year, no one booed the Suns who won that series against the Lakers and went all the way to Game 6 of the Finals until John Fucking Paxson hit that wide open three with four seconds remaining. And two days after the Finals no one showed up for work in Phoenix because they all attended a parade for the team that lost.
I’m not really sure where I’m going with this. For once, I’m not trying to badmouth Cubs fans because they have to be exasperated. It’s exasperating when your team loses (swept even) in the first round of the playoffs when many have you picked to go all the way. It’s exasperating when your team looks overmatched to a team that lost 12 fewer games in the regular season. It’s exasperating when you haven’t seen a World Series in your city in the past 100 years, except the ones that belong to your hated rival. It’s exasperating when you finally think you can silence the naysayers only to provide them with even more ammunition. I get all of that. So at what point do they deserve a break (if at all)?
While we’re at it, let me ask another question: Is there a luxury in being the fan of a losing franchise? I can’t tell you how many fans of losing franchises I’ve heard call out fans of playoff teams for their poor fan ettiquette. ”Down in Pittsburgh, we don’t boo our fans.” Well they couldn’t hear you if you did. I hear Orioles and Nationals fans arguing over attendence figures and I think that it’s become a competition off the field too.
I personally went to 15 Diamondback games this year. Tickets, parking, beer, time all invested in watching a team with potential. And I’ll be honest, in September you’d be hard pressed to find a more exasperated fan than me. I was irritated that two premier pitchers like Webb and Haren weren’t performing up to their high standards. I was irritated that Mark Reynolds broke the MLB single-season strikeout record. I was irritated with Brandon Lyons, I was irritated with Doug Slaten. I even left early one game. I heard similar things from Roman and Spence and NickP. Does that mean we’re not real fans because we criticized our team? Is booing where we draw the line?




I never booed honestly, but i did here the boos at wrigley…but ou gotta remember that those booing were not the regular bleacher bums…those were the folks that could afford playoff tickets
i am exasperated more than anything that i put a whole fucking summer into the cubs….raced home from the golf course to watch them win …strated a blog to document what was supposed to be the year the curse ended….instead the blog isin moth balls and i am not sure if it will exist under the same name next year….the theme was there…the 100 year itch would have been scratched and the blog title appropriate for all time…
fuck – you got me monologue-ing
That’s because he was checking out your girlfriend.
BOOOOOOOOOOOO
/cubs fan’d
It depends on the booing…If you are booing your guy..BEFORE..he fucks you over (Aaron Heilman) you are just fucking him over before he fucked you over. I don’t do that. But if Heilman blows up for the 18th time in 2 weeks then he is certainly going to hear it. It took the Mets crowd a solid month of the Good Delgado before they stopped booing him. Why? It’s because most fans don’t pay attention. They know Delgado sucks, even when he is not sucking, so booooo. I guess what I am trying to say is it is OK to be exasperated. It is OK to boo sometimes. But you have to pick your spots. Booing is like having an argument in a relationship. We build these weird relationships with our teams and sometimes we need to vent. Sometimes relationships get abusive like in Philly. Philly fans love to boo. I personally think they would rather boo the shit out of something than cheer it. They have given their teams very little wiggle room. Traditionally Met fans were not like that. The last two years it is getting ugly at Shea. It disappoints me a bit that we are the reactionary booers now. That we are now the abusive fans.
Good read.
I will boo for lack of effort, but not for simply losing. As a fan you’re obviously going to be disappointed when you put so much into your team (emotionally and finacially) and they don’t succeed. It’s when they don’t try that warrants the boos, and the booze.
Jim Leyland would’ve never been booed at Shea.
/TBL
i never once booed Corey Hart at any of those games because he kept coming up in crucial spots. i don’t know his mindset, but the booing can’t help. if i see that fucker now, i’ll definitely boo him. and bill hall.
I boo…everytime Kevin Youkulis comes up to bat. I hate that guy.
kevin youkilis ass shaking at bats > nomar batting glove adjustment routine
Who moved the Hef Chronicles? Oh, wait. Too much quality.
How dare you besmirch the Hef Chronicles. That was the best part about TBL for awhile.
one more thing…the booing of Heilman is not necessarily the booing of Heilman. It is the booing of the decision to put in Heilman. Now I don’t boo Luis Castillo but the boos he gets are not purely based on his performance. They are aimed at Omar for signing him for 4 years. It’s not Luis’s fault for bettering his life and signing a big contract he didn’t deserve. It’s Omar’s for giving it to him. Unfortunately we don’t have a boo translator so we are Booing Luis Castillo. Now I am a mental patient when it comes to my teams but I don’t boo them often. I have booed Guillermo Mota, Armando Benitez, Aaron Heilman, the entire 2002 Mets especially Jeromy Burnitz (that team blew asshole) but I am usually a positive fan (ask Gurucane) but I do understand the dynamic of booing..and at least 25% of it is by stupid assholes and front runners
/truthified
leave my Guillermo alone.
/sincere
I was saying it was quality. It was a compliment you idiot.
My idiocy prevents me from accepting compliments.
Is booing the coach OK? Lots of that going on up here right now.
Hawk, only if it’s Willie Randolph.
/Roman
i hardy visit TBL anymore
/ truthful
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
/John L Smith Coached Spartans
BOOOOOOOOOOOUUUURNS!
/Smithers
Wow, a somewhat positive piece on Cubs fans only two weeks after the rest of the assholes on this site piled on and on about Cubs fans sucking!
The reason I took such offense to the bullshit “booing is bad” comments after the Cubs lost is because you people act like you’ve never been pissed at your team for losing. You’re all a bunch of fucking hypocrites. The fans were cheering their asses off at the beginning of all the games, yet the Cubs still managed to commit SIX FUCKING ERRORS. Apparently you geniuses seem to think that was the Cubs fans’ fault.
im going to come clean (after reading this way late…)
i participated in booing on monday night…then again what else should my response have been to the browns committing 4 false starts in a single drive?
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
/Still Cub Fan’d
I realize that I am late to the party on this one but I’ll throw in my two cents that noone will read anyway.
First, I don’t recall Roman ever booing in my presence. Maybe he booed the time (ummm, the one time in our presence that is) that Delgado dogged it to first on a popup in April, but that’s it.
I really don’t boo except for certain players that I want off the team (Scott Blowenweis–I boo and scream “I HATE YOU!!!” for this guy and Luis Castillo–I boo and scream “I’M COMING FOR YOUR FAMILY!!!” for this guy) due to management’s poor decision making. I also boo for lack of hustle.
As a general matter, I rarely boo but totally understand why Met fans are quick to do so. Met fans feel hurt. They feel cheated. They feel betrayed and lied to. They were promised a winner in the face of a scare campaign that caused a lot of people to buy season tickets just so they could get priority for CitiField; they get first dibs on even higher payments going forward. All for a team that broke their hearts two years in a row in epic fashion.
Therefore, they boo.